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Poster: segan63 Date: Apr 6, 2013 2:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

I don't know. I think it's easy to cherry pick lyrics from a band's catalog and talk about how lame they are. Maybe on some Doors' forum, there are people making sport of "streetcats making love"...

As for Roadhouse Blues, I got burnt out on that song in high school. There are a handful of Doors songs that I enjoy starting with Peace Frog, When the Music's Over, and The End. They also released a pretty decent live album with Absolutely Live...

But yeah, they're not the Dead...

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 6, 2013 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

This was in no way meant to be a comparison of the Doors with the Dead,and they should be goofing on LLR on the Doors forum,I make no argument that Weir and Hunter didn't write a ton of very lame lyrics.My problem is in what high esteem Morrison is held as a lyricist.

Peace Frog is a song that as best I can make out is about the rioting and unrest among the youth in the late 60's and some stuff about a suffering woman of which I am unsure why she is suffering,there also seems to be an inordinate amount of blood being spilled in the streets.He fits this awful line into the mix.

indians scattered on dawns highway bleeding
ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind

In The End which topic is evident he treats us to this gem.

lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain
all the children are insane
all the children are insane
waiting for the summer rain,yeah

I can take solace in the fact that his lyrics aren't as bad as the snippets of his poetry I have come across,and none seem to be as "cock-centric" as the poem found further down this thread.

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Poster: bigdaddy dave Date: Apr 7, 2013 3:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

Indians scattered on dawns highway bleeding
ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind


As I have read/heard about that lyric it was alluding to a time in Morrisons younger years. While on a family trip the clan came across an accident on the highway.

Apparently, there was a group of native Americans riding in the back of a pick-up truck involved in the wreck, several were killed, and the entire incident made quite the impression on a young and impressionable Lizard King

Hardly an "awful" line.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 7, 2013 9:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

Yeah I know where the line supposedly comes from and crowbarring it into some dreck about political unrest make it an awful line.

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Poster: segan63 Date: Apr 6, 2013 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

Yeah, I don't know what the lyrics mean to Peace Frog exactly, either. But to me, lyrics are usually secondary to the music(except in Dylan's case). The reason I like Peace Frog so much, is because that song's probably got a better hook than other Doors' songs. The End is pretty hypnotic. Of course it helps that I now identify that song with Apocalypse Now...

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 6, 2013 2:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

Again I'm not trying to tell anyone how they should hear music I'm just pointing out what I find objectionable with the Doors stuff,I love Bob Dylan's music and could not even begin to make sense of some of the lyrics in Visions of Johanna,but find it to be a masterpiece of imagery and song craft yet if someone wanted to they could pick it apart as babble.